Inside the Pentagon his findings were met with skepticism. Furthermore, that informations being backed up on electro optical data, like gun camera footage. And they are seeing something that they can't explain. Lue Elizondo: We spend millions of dollars in training these pilots. Nothing was said or done officially for five years, until Lue Elizondo came across the story and investigated. Then like the mysterious flying object, the Nimitz encounter disappeared. But there's, there's something out there that was better than our airplane. I've had some people tell me, you know, "When you say that, you can sound crazy." I'll be hon- I'm not a UFO guy.īill Whitaker: But from what I hear you guys saying, there's something?ĭave Fravor: Oh there's, there's definitely something that… I don't know who's building it, who's got the technology, who's got the brains. So as I'm coming down, it starts coming up.īill Whitaker: So it's mimicking your moves?ĭave Fravor: I do. The Tic Tac's still pointing north-south, it goes, click, and just turns abruptly. And it's just kind of moving above the whitewater area.Īs Deitrich circled above - Fravor went in for a closer look.īill Whitaker: So you're sort of spiraling down?ĭave Fravor: Yep. They found an area of roiling whitewater the size of a 737 in an otherwise calm, blue sea.ĭave Fravor: So as we're looking at this, her back-seater says, "Hey, Skipper, do you." And about that got out, I said, "Dude, do you, do you see that thing down there?" And we saw this little white Tic Tac-looking object. On November 14, Fravor and Dietrich, each with a weapons systems officer in the backseat, were diverted to investigate. For a week, the advanced new radar on a nearby ship, the USS Princeton, had detected what operators called "multiple anomalous aerial vehicles" over the horizon, descending 80,000 feet in less than a second.
It was November 2004 and the USS Nimitz carrier strike group was training about 100 miles southwest of San Diego. And so I feel a responsibility to s- to share what I can. Alex Dietrich and Dave FravorĪlex Dietrich: I never wanted to be on national TV, no offense.īill Whitaker: So why are you doing this?Īlex Dietrich: Because I was in a government aircraft, because I was on the clock. We spoke to two of them: David Fravor, a graduate of the Top Gun naval flight school and commander of the F/A-18F squadron on the USS Nimitz and flying at his wing, Lieutenant Alex Dietrich, who has never spoken publicly about the encounter. But that began to change after an incident off Southern California in 2004, which was documented by radar, by camera, and four naval aviators. The government has ignored it - at least publicly - since closing its project "Blue Book" investigation in 1969. We're happy to just ignore the fact that these are out there, watching us every day. But because it looks slightly different, we're not willing to actually look at the problem in the face. You know, if these were tactical jets from another country that were hangin' out up there, it would be a massive issue. And that tells you that there is something out there?īill Whitaker: Could it be Russian or Chinese technology? Ryan Gravesīill Whitaker: So you're seeing it both with the radar and with the infrared. He told us his F/A-18F squadron began seeing UAPs hovering over restricted airspace southeast of Virginia Beach in 2014 when they updated their jet's radar, making it possible to zero in with infrared targeting cameras. Is it some sort of new type of cruise missile technology that China has developed? Is it some sort of high-altitude balloon that's conducting reconnaissance? Ultimately when you have exhausted all those what ifs and you're still left with the fact that this is in our airspace and it's real, that's when it becomes compelling, and that's when it becomes problematic.įormer Navy pilot Lieutenant Ryan Graves calls whatever is out there a security risk. We're not just simply jumping to a conclusion that's saying, "Oh, that's a UAP out there." We're going through our due diligence. Lue Elizondo: In some cases there are simple explanations for what people are witnessing. Recently released images may not convince ufo skeptics, but the pentagon admits it doesn't know what in the world this is or this or this.īill Whitaker: So what do you say to the skeptics? It's refracted light. They combed through data and records, and analyzed videos like this.Ī Navy aircrew struggles to lock onto a fast-moving object off the U.S.
Elizondo tells us AATIP was a loose-knit mix of scientists, electro-optical engineers, avionics and intelligence experts, often working part time.
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